hard to find one this nice! People sometimes refer to the "Sandy Hook Tests" of 1879, where the army tested the Springfield .45-70 Trapdoor at two miles. This is usually done with 1, 2 or possibly more wads being pushed down on top of the powder column before seating the bullet. Here's the ice pick. I pan lube with SPG, that has worked best for me, each his or her own for lube and application. It retains most of its original finish and sports an 1881 cartouche. I have a couple Springfield 45-70's, and shoot exclusively black powder by choice. also would like to know if i use less powder can i use a patch or something to fill the void between the powder and the bullet?i am looking for the right way to reload these.thank you. beautiful preservation! The bore and chamber look. For your entertainment, here is a trapdoor I finished a couple weeks ago. I have found in my rifles one likes heavy loads and the other lite loads. This test was held on a NJ beach to get the range, and for the sand impact area that would indicate hits. The server has not detected any activity for the last 3 hours. http://smg.photobucket.com/user/waksupi/media/P1010001-002_zpsryr4czlr.jpg.html>http://smg.photobucket.com/user/waksupi/media/P1010003-002_zpsrxu7esez.jpg.html> After the Civil War, Springfield armory won the bid to manufacturer weapons for the US Army. From a hide , about 50 yards. However, time marches on. The Springfield stayed in service until 1893, when it was replaced by the Krag–Jørgensen bolt-action rifle. This test was held on a NJ beach to get the range, and for the sand impact area that would indicate hits. The sight on trapdoor Springfield rifles when in the down position is what is called the battle position. Beautiful colour case hardening. If you are shooting a 405 grain hollow base bullet, I would look askance at using an over-powder wad. Rivoli Rifle Club at New Windsor, Illinois had a early November Turkey Shoot with an offhand match for the Trapdoor at 200 yards on a swinging clay pigeon, many shooters used the above load. The hammer on a trap door Springfield is just the right size for belling the case mouth; a necessary step in reloading low velocity loads. The Springfield Trapdoor rifles and carbines were a series of breech loading rifle and carbine weapons built from 1865 to about 1888, beginning with the Model 1865 and then with other models being introduced every few years. Take the plugged case out, put the primed and charged case in the chamber and the rifle was ready to fire. If you go to the posts and look for strings in my name, you will see my sojourn so far with the Trapdoors. 405 gn loads in the 14-1600 FPS range would be safe in a Trapdoor Springfield IF the rifle has been checked by a gunsmith and determined to be in condition to shoot standard 45-70 ammo. Known as the Rod-Bayonet or Model 1888 Rifle. I'm guessing you mean Swiss 2f powder. Otherwise Excellent. The rifle will be my long range side action gun for SASS competition. I cover how I load compressed loads of 70 grains, and going down to 55 grains of BP. The rifle is all original and saw little use. It was a redesign of the Army’s Allin Trapdoor rifle. The 1879 "Buckhorn" rear sight is my favorite, mainly because it is adjustable for windage. Springfield Trapdoors abound at gun shows, gun shops, pawnshops and in private collections. how does this sound to you? NEVER! The function of the hollow base is to expand and seal the base against the rifling. The 500 grain round nose bullet is heavy enough to provide the resistance ot the initial gas push to sit and expand to the rifling before moving in the barrel. The Association's central purpose is to help shooters enjoy casting bullets, You must enable JavaScript to be able to use this site in full, 6.7 LOADING THE SPRINGFIELD 45-70 THE EASY WAY.doc, Welcome to The Cast Bullet Association Forum, TC Contenders & Other Single Shot Handguns, 68 grains Swiss FFg - Compressed - Drop tube, .030 fiber over-powder wad, 030 milk carton wad soaked in lube, SAECO 1881 500 grain round-nose - 25/1 Pb/Sn alloy, SPG lubed; sized in a .460 only to get lubed. If you are shooting a 405 grain hollow base bullet, I would look askance at using an over-powder wad. He said the government never liked to change things and the butt plate screws for GI rifles were the same ones that were made for the civil war muskets. With a hinged breech block, this classic rifle Among its many problems, after prolonged firing, blackpowder residue tended to seize the shell in the chamber, making the weapon useless. in 1963. In the past I used a home-made dipper made from a pistol cartridge case with a piece of 14 gauge copper wire soldered on for a handle. The 1873 US Springfield Trapdoor chambered in.45/70 is a true American classic and perfectly capable of taking large sized game today. The wad gets pushed into the hollow base and interferes with the expansion. I just bought a Springfield Model 1884 Trapdoor rifle. The Springfield Trapdoor Cartridge Rifle and Carbine was produced for the military in 1873. There should be a bit of drag on the empty belled case is chambered, not too much to make the case hard to chamber, just enough so you can feel it drag. Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by chuck faison, Aug 25, 2009. It is equipped with the Buffington sight that is adjustable for windage and elevation. Then the base of the bullet rests on top of the wad(s). Buyer pays postage. 6.7 LOADING THE SPRINGFIELD 45-70 THE EASY WAY   Compressing the powder often improves the performance of a lot of black powder loadings. However the Trapdoor saw service in the Spanish/American war in Cuba by reservists. It's great to see you over here. Most are in decent shooting condition and are still affordable, but 90 percent of the existing Trapdoors out there are .45-70s. bullet, even if you load with the heavier slug, the rifle will shoot 18-24" high at 100 yds! My problem is the trigger pull. Bore excellent. Put a bullet in the chamber, push it in with a plugged case and close the door on the plugged case to breech-seat the bullet. H & R 1873 Springfield Trapdoor Officers Model in very good condition. People sometimes refer to the "Sandy Hook Tests" of 1879, where the army tested the Springfield .45-70 Trapdoor at two miles. Why Choose Us? That the single shot Trapdoor Springfield was a satisfactory weapon for both infantry and cavalry is evidenced by the fact that it was not until 1892 that it was replaced by a repeater in the form of the bolt action .30-40 Krag Jorgenson rifle. Most are in decent shooting condition and are still affordable, but 90 percent of the existing Trapdoors out there are.45-70s. Today I would use a set of Lee powder scoops, see the picture. Now our trapdoors are shooting at a far higher level of accuracy than ever before. Breech block is marked U.S. Model of 1884, Buffington rear sight, inspector cartouche is dated 1888, P … Like a 1750 ft-lb of muzzle energy wallop. vintage.45-70 springfield trapdoor rifle*original* m1879 ramrod* for your viewing pleasure* vintage*original* m1879 springfield trapdoor rifle* correct ramrod* 45/70 caliber-indian wars era(1866-97) in excellent working condition! The sight on trapdoor Springfield rifles when in the down position is what is called the battle position. Rivoli Rifle Club at New Windsor, Illinois had a early November Turkey Shoot with an offhand match for the Trapdoor at 200 yards on a swinging clay pigeon, many shooters used the above load. The rifle is in good to very good condition with a nice patina, original stock, shiny bore and very visible rifling. This had a … Shooting high at 100 is common; trapdoor battle sights were typically zeroed for 300 yards with the Frankfurt Arsenal cartridge. I have a very nice Trapdoor with a mint bore. Here are some photos to help explain this reloading method: 45/70 Springfield Trapdoor Rifle - A ruggedly worn Original example of the Springfield Trapdoor rifle. Buy Shoot 22 Magnum And Long Rifle And Shooting Springfield Trapdoor Rifle Shoot 22 Magnum And Long Rifle And Shooting Springfield Trapdoor Rifle Reviews : You However, I score better with this load if I watch the wind very closely. A Cinnamon black bear. Springfield Krag Trapdoors Springfield Muskets M1 Garand 1892 - 1894 Krag 1896 Krag 1898 Krag 1899 - 1903 Krag Krag Accessories Model 1865 1st Allin Model 1866 .50-70 Model 1868-1870 .50-70 Model 1873-1890 .45-70 ... Trapdoor Accessories For your security, your session will expire in 2 minutes … A short bit of time and anyone can get the feel for this. great stuff joeb ... now THAT is reloading in it's true spirit.. reminds me that when i was 12 yrs. The Springfield Trapdoor held the new, more powerful .45-70 military cartridge. Earlier sights (1873) did not have the windage. You are bidding on a excellent 1873 Trapdoor Springfield 1st model rifle or early carbine butt plate. i cajoled my dad every three hours to let me get a lyman tool for my 218 bee ... he finally caved in when he saw my crutched up loading methods ... Maybe instead of wads taking up that excess space, put a wad in on top of the powder and fill the rest of the space with a grease cookie. The Springfield Trapdoor Cartridge Rifle and Carbine was produced for the military in 1873. Select a load starting around 10 grains and never more than 14 grains of Unique. Cpt - if you care to look up the birth date of your rifle, here's a link ... John Boy- The sight shown in your photo is the 1879 Buckhorn. (Thanks to Steve Adair for the pictures showing a trapdoor Springfield.) i bought a Springfield 45-70 trap door i need some information on reloading the ammo,i have been told to use swift 2f black powder 65 gr. I've read the following article before, and it's been referenced in several places. Shooting high at 100 is common; trapdoor battle sights were typically zeroed for 300 yards with the Frankfurt Arsenal cartridge. It is safe in all firearms (in good condition) chambered for this caliber. Start a primer in the primer pocket with the thumb, then put the case in the chamber and close the door, and the primer is seated. I remembered hearing a line in an old movie from when I was a kid, with the master sergeant in some imaginary 'Battle of Filmdom Gulch' admonishing his men to ''shoot at their knees', or something like that. The stout cartridge propels a hefty 405 grain lead bullet at around 1400 fps. Here's a 45-70 case with the Lee de-capping rod and base, and a mallet to operate them. The trapdoor Springfield outlived Custer. I was developing loads for a friend's rifle and the shooting high was a pain. But with black powder you need to avoid allowing an air gap to be present between the base of the bullet and the top of the powder. I also shoot BPCR and have several 45-70's and found those 3 articles very interesting. luckily there's a guys makes this scope mount. the primer seated in the primer pocket. this ramrod is straight and measures a full 35 1/2" with 97-99% original finish present. It bore the bayonet thrust through Crazy Horse, and fired the bullet that killed Sitting Bull. The Springfield model 1884 was one of the "Trapdoor Springfield" rifles. A Fine Example of the Trapdoor Springfield Rod-Bayonet Infantry Rifle. Mine shot just like Rich-Siegel's. #Permalink This is designed to put a bullet on a man sized target somewhere from point blank to about 350 yards. I believe the 1879 sight is adjustable for windage once the slide is raised from the base position. Back in the days before hip surgery, and eye floaters, guess were alittle late here, a good book on trapdoors and reloading for them is by pat and spencer wolfe,has a lot of info including how to safely lighten trigger pull and wealth of historical info on these guns, overall agood read   imo, never late for good information Thanks I just almost finished putting together an 1868-70 50-70. A local gunsmith and former armorer took a look and removed the pin that held the front sight balde and replaced the blade with one from a Krag or Springfield (can't remember which) put the pin back in and all was well at 100. It mounted the bayonet thrust through Crazy Horse and fired the bullet that killed Sitting Bull. Only ever Nitro powder. The model 1884 incorporated a significant number of improvements that had been made between 1878 and 1879. Jim I don't visit this Forum real often but I do check back every now and then. The function of the hollow base is to expand and seal the base against the rifling. It is a lot sharper than the picture shows, and will decap cases easily when whacked with a stick. No Ordinary Trapdoor! The Model 1873 "Trapdoor" Springfield was the first standard-issue breech-loading rifle adopted by the United States Army (although the Springfield Model 1866 had seen limited issue to troops along the Bozeman Trail in 1867). I put 2 into it, but I think the first one would have done it. Others are so pristine they look like they were never issued. The musket barrels were left as they were and utilised .58-calibre, copper-cased rimfire ammunition. Remington still loads some .45-70 ammunition to safe levels for the Trapdoor; they're labeled as such. Stormin, depending on the model Trapdoor you have, adjusting your rear sight may be your fix. He has included a number of … Slight scratch on RHS butt stock. I will use Black Hills .45-70 Cowboy loads. During the past year I scratched a longstanding itch and bought a nice Mod. Using BP is a great loading experience and is different in some ways than using smokeless powders. It equipped the troops also during the Spanish-American War (1898-1899). BECAUSE: * Some modern .45-70 ammo is currently loaded so it is held to the 18,000 CUP pressure limits, and thus is safe in .45-70 trapdoor rifles in good condition. They all shoot high from this position. Plugged cases filled with lead alloy or with a piece of dowel also work well. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. 1 Breech block is marked U.S. Model of 1884, Buffington rear sight, inspector cartouche is dated 1888, P proof behind the trigger gaurd is visible but faint. A reduced power loading was also adopted for use in the Trapdoor carbine. Now our trapdoors are shooting at a far higher level of accuracy than ever before. For additional photographs, descriptions and specifications see: The .45-70 Springfield-Book I or The .45-70 Springfield-Book II-1865-1893.. Return to Front Page View Sporting Rifles View Model 1884 Round Rod Bayonet Rifles A Cinnamon black bear. With the pitted bore near the muzzle, I would consider having the rifle counterbored 8 inches to sound rifling, with a perfect crown. This is our lighter recoiling 45/70. I cast bullets and lubricated them by hand or pan lubed them, and developed a way to reload at the range. The primer is seated a little above the head of the case. Good luck with those Buffington sights. The Springfield rifle is a typical gun of the American soldiers, including General Custer. The trapdoor mechanism continued with the adoption of the Springfield 1873 rifle, chambered in the new .45-70 cartridge. I think this test helped get the 500-grain M1881 bullet and cartridge. Learn from CBA members that have been casting their entire life. Presuming you are shooting an origianl Trapdoor Springfield, although you are shooting a bullet that is lighter than the original 405 gr. Springfield Trapdoors abound at gun shows, gun shops, pawnshops and in private collections. get low cost} prices Shooting Edge Gunsmith And Springfield Trapdoor Gunsmithing now. Put a thumb sized piece of toilet paper in the charged case and push it down on the powder with a stick or a pencil to keep the powder in place when loading. The Model 1873 is the most popular with collectors. vintage.45-70 springfield trapdoor rifle*original* m1879 ramrod* for your viewing pleasure* vintage*original* m1879 springfield trapdoor rifle* correct ramrod* 45/70 caliber-indian wars era(1866-97) in excellent working condition! On this rifle the cleaning rod was the bayonet; the bayonet could be extended ahead of the muzzle and was held by a catch mechanism. (Thanks to Steve Adair for the pictures showing a trapdoor Springfield.) The Springfield rifle is a typical gun of the American soldiers, including General Custer. After the case mouth is belled, throw a charge of powder in the case. MP0282 Saddle Bar Ring 1873-1889 Springfield 45/70 Trapdoor Carbine, Spencer Rifle/Carbine, & 1859 - 63 Sharps, 1874 Sharps, & Our Price: $4.95 Compare The result of the quest for a more accurate, flatter shooting .45 caliber cartridge and firearm was the Springfield Trapdoor rifle. Metal has some pitting around the wood stock, wood is solid with dings and scratchs you would expect for a 130 year old firears, no cracks. I don't spend much time on the computer any more. The plugged case shown is filled with epoxy. beautiful preservation! I bought my first 45/70 rifle, a Springfield model 1884, from Ralph Laffoly at his gun shop in Melrose Mass. The Springfield Trapdoor held the new, more powerful.45-70 military cartridge. Another good source of factory ammunition for the Trapdoor is the "Cowboy" loads; they're loaded to mild pressure levels and have lead bullets that are easier on the aging steel of the venerable Springfield rifles. The Springfield rifle is a typical gun of the American soldiers, including General Custer. This is designed to put a bullet on a man sized target somewhere from point blank to about 350 yards. This includes the Trapdoor Springfield. The sight on trapdoor Springfield rifles when in the down position is what is called the battle position. It is loaded with the same 300 grain Hornady JHP used in our full strength 45/70. With the pitted bore near the muzzle, I would consider having the rifle counterbored 8 inches to sound rifling, with a perfect crown. It never hurts to bell the case mouth. This Trapdoor wears a Buffington rear sight with a … The resulting .4570 cartridge went on to fame in Winchester and Remington rifles, but in the trapdoor Springfield it was a miserable failure. My favorite .45-70 black powder load for several rifles is: This is not the flattest shooting load for long range matches, it requires several more minutes elevation over a pointed bullet at 600 yards. What you mean by "modern ammo" and "trapdoor springfield" in the same sentence I have NO CLUE. This because maybe, just maybe, the primer might go off prematurely in another gun. The trapdoor mechanism continued with the adoption of the Springfield 1873 rifle, chambered in the new .45-70 cartridge. I hope the data from my experience helps you. Great to shoot, very accurate. It is safe in all firearms (in good condition) chambered for this caliber. During the following 20 years quite a big number of Springfield Trapdoor rifles have been manufactured, among them also many versions with smooth barrel for cadets, for the target shooting and destined to the Officers. Velocity is 1,410 FPS from 18″ barrels. Full-stocked, 32 inch barreled rifles, as well as half-stocked, short-barreled carbines, were produced. The Trapdoor was further modified in 1884 with a new (Buffington) rear sight that gave windage correction and the rifle soldiered on until replaced by the bolt-action 30/40 Krag-Jørgensen in 1892, which was the US’ first smokeless cartridge. It is loaded with the same 300 grain Hornady JHP used in our full strength 45/70. This will fit almost all Trapdoor Springfield rifles and carbines except cadet models and M1888 ramrod bayonet models but is correct for pieces made before about SN 78.000. The Model 1884's have a really cool rear sight that allows for both windage and elevation adjustments, and adjusting it to play with the POI at different ranges is (for me) part of the fun of shooting a Trapdoor. Much better than the ice pick. This includes the Trapdoor Springfield. Velocity is 1,410 FPS from 18″ barrels. Springfield 45/70 Springfield Trapdoor Cadet Rifle) Rifles for sale in Christchurch, United Kingdom This rifle was in nice condition, with a bright and shiny bore; and cost $40. it takes a long eye relief scope, mines a … a 405 grain hallow base bullet and to compress the powder. Look for your answers in our Forum and in our bi-monthly publication the Fouling Shot. Joined: Sep 27, 2007 Messages: 10. this site specializes in: (1) trapdoor springfield rifles & carbines, 1865-1893; (2) indian war & span-am war: u.s springfield trapdoor arms; (3) 1865-1893 military: bayonets, knives, entrenching tools/trowels, mills & prairie belts, mckeever / dyer pouches & carbine boots. There were several good articles about loading BPCR cartridges in a couple of back issues of TFS. Mr. Laffoly threw in a box of ammunition after I paid, which was his way with the younger shooters. So that's it, the easiest reloading I've ever done, with the absolute minimum of tools and expense. If you searching to check on Shooting Springfield Trapdoor Rifle And What Makes Air Rifle Shoot Half Moon Pattern price. VERY nice work. Belling the case mouth seals the case mouth against the chamber and keeps that blow-by from happening. A "traditional" load for the Trapdoor has been 22 grains of 2400 with a 400 grain cast bullet sized at least .460, most Trapdoor bores are oversize. A "traditional" load for the Trapdoor has been 22 grains of 2400 with a 400 grain cast bullet sized at least.460, most Trapdoor bores are oversize. Trapdoor Gemmer Rifle .45-70 for sale online. The Springfield Trapdoor rifle is a typical gun of the American soldiers. I made a new front sight from a penny so that I could file it to the correct height, and this rifle was alarmingly accurate at 100 yards with the fully adjustable Buffington rear sight. During the following 20 years quite a big number of Springfield Trapdoor rifles have been manufactured, among them also many versions with smooth barrel for cadets, for the target shooting and destined to the Officers. Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Next > chuck faison Member. This is designed to put a bullet on a man sized target somewhere from point blank to about 350 yards. NEW FOR YOU yes i meant Swiss 2f black powder, some time my fingers and mind don't work together lol. 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